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* Beginners
o Textbooks
o Reader

* Advanced
o Writing
o Translation

[top]Beginners

[top]Textbooks

* Integrated Chinese [1]
* New Practical Chinese Reader[2]
* David & Helen
* Chinese Made Easier (实用速成汉语)
* Conversational Chinese 301

[top]Reader

All below 3 books have about 1500 different characters and for adults.
* Wit and Humor: An Easy Chinese Reading Series: A Simple But Difficult Problem (with CD)
(简易汉语趣味阅读－简单的难题) Amazon.cn link
* Book 2 of the "Wit and Humor" Series
* Graded Chinese Reader 1 - 汉语分级阅读1 Has longer stories then to two "Wit and Humor"
books. Published in 2007

Reader (for primary Chinese children)
* 新语文读本(小学卷1)
* 新语文读本(小学卷2)
* 新语文读本(小学卷3) (I only list 1-3, the total series has 12 books. 1, 2, ect. is the
school grade)

[top]Advanced

[top]Writing

* A Learners' Handbook of Modern Chinese Written Expressions. Excellent guide to formal written
Chinese for immediate/advance learners.
* Developing Writing Skills in Chinese by Yuan Boping
For post-intermediate students of Chinese. Each unit contains a selection of model texts, each
followed by notes in English on the format, style, grammar or special phrases demonstrated in
the text.
* 初中典型范例作文分类诊所
* 中考优秀作文高分点拨与作文修改

[top]Translation

* 英汉翻译技能指引 by 刘宓庆
* 英汉法律翻译教程 by 孙万彪

[1] Discussion on Integrated Chinese and New Practical Chinese Reader

[2] Description of NPCR

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comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

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Re: comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

Yes. Plenty. Examples include the Book of Odes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Jing) (very old),
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What other languages do we speak

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Hi,
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eddie9684 -

Quote:

I think that anyone would be accepted because they have a lot and a lot of room. Make sure you
apply before the deadline.
Hope this helps
Tina

Quote:

Within two months after the day on which it receives the application and relevant materials, the
Admission Office will send to qualified applicants

thats from the site... i sent once the documents before deadline applications, like 1 month and
half before and got rejected.. so its more like 2 months before the class u want to apply for.. so
if you really want to go sometimes its better to send the documents and the payment at least 2
months or 3 before the class u want to apply for..

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angelineco -

Is anyone going to BLCU for Sept 2008?

shimmyy -

Still considering BLCU at the moment.. a bit worried about the accommodation side though.
I've been looking at classifieds, but a lot of them are actually focusing on accommodation for the
olympics...

Any suggestions on how to conduct accomodation searches more efficiently?
TIA!

George--- -

Where are you from?

I'm fixing the application for my kid.

The best way to reserve is to call the dorms.

dancejinx -

hey!! who's definitely going to beijing for Fall 2008??

i'll also be in beijing to study there although i will be studying in university of international
business and trade. beijing is such an amazing city so im quite excited. we can arrange a meet up
or something if we all will be in beijing at that time.

amy

Trang Nguyen -

Hi guys,

Iam going there for Fall semester, I already sent all docs n paid the application fee 2 weeks ago.
Iam waiting for them to send me the acceptance n form for visa. I have a friend there now to look
for an apartment for me, and I am coming end of Aug to advoid Opympic as things r getting crazily
expensive. Shall we arrange to meet up, who comes for Sept one? Would be nice!

Cheers,

MelissaBarrows -

Hey Amy,
I am arriving in Bejing on July 28th. School starts on August 4th. When do you get there? How long
are you staying? Hopefully we all can meet up! My email is barrows.m@gmail.com

naonao -

Hi, there

I submitted the application for 1 year course from this September.
I am going to get to Beijing on August 26th.
I also hope to meet guys!

Nao

stabiloboss -

hey guys!

it's getting hot here in beijing, so those who are coming for the summer course, take note of
this: if turning into a peking roast duck is not part of your to-do list, make sure you're ready
with sunblock, cotton tees, flipflops and nalgene bottles. they can be real lifesavers.

too bad i'm not gonna be able to meet you guys since i'm going home for summer break. i'll be back
in beijing by the end of august for the fall term.

for those who wanna keep in touch, my email is: iya.torres[at]yahoo.com

cheers!

mwong -

I'm going in September for the 12 week 30-hour course. I'll probably be in the A class as I just
started learning a month ago or so. Does anybody know the structure of the classes on a day to day
basis? Is it pin-yin, writing etc? I really haven't found anything yet so any help is greatly
appreciated.

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Chinese Course - Several questions about 哪里哪里 - Page 2 - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Grammar and Vocabulary

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Lu -

哪裡 in itself means 'where' (where would you get the idea that my Chinese is good); 哪里 in
traditional means something like 'which village', which makes no sense at all as far as I can
tell. I'd say it's a typo.

When typing (in Taiwan, in traditional), my input system gives me either 哪裡 or 那裡 when I
type nali, never 哪里.

When searching for 哪里 in the .tw domain, the first twenty results are split between sites that
are simplified anyway, and forums and blogs and such things, that are more prone to typos than an
official website.

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skylee -

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsrguru

The important thing to note is that 哪裡哪裡 was found frequently, implying that it's probably
the correct traditional form.

Good observation.

I think 你太客氣了 can be used instead of 哪裏哪裏.

monto -

哪里哪里 = 哪裡哪裡 = 哪裏哪裏. All are same thing. next to it is :

(您)过奖了. (literally "you have over praised me)

muyongshi -

I have also been hearing more and more young people who simply respond by saying 还好吧. Like
if you say you do such and such really well, they will just make the neutral comment 还好吧.
Kind of reaching a middle ground between the west of just accepting the compliment and the
older/traditionals that would flat out deny the compliment.

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Saturday, June 7, 2008

Speak Chinese - Textbook Availability - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Studying, Working and Living in China > Living in China > Teaching English in

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jfranco -

I am finishing up my Masters in ESL and am planning to go to China in a year to teach English long
term. I have several text books already, which I've obtained from my courses and several more I
would like to purchase.

I am wondering how easy it is to find and order good quality English text books in China. Are
English textbooks hard to come by? Are they easy to come by, but rather expensive?

I am interested in some more specific topics, such as discourse analysis and pragmatics and am not
sure how difficult they would be to find. It is not an issue to order them now, but I am trying to
avoid paying unnecessary shipping costs.

I realize that the school would likely have their own textbooks. Mainly, the books I speak of are
for personal reference.

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simonlaing -

Hi Jfranco,

Good quality ESL books are very difficult to find here. Partly this is due to the general Chinese
education teaching style which is memorize and recite versus using the language in a meaningful
way. Also almost all the classes teach the students in preparation for the tests. There are no
oral English tests until Univerisity that I am aware of , so speaking is not something stressed,
but it something they often get the foreign teachers to teach.

On books depending on your age group, I would get books with looks of pictures, activities,
dialogues and games. The best are ones that say Photocopiable mmaterial provided. Most Schools
won't agree to buy the books, but will have a copy machine and will let you make as many copies as
you like.

The books you will find are 3 Read look listen for younger kids,
New Oriental (plagiarized from tests) books
and New Concept English (mostly reading comprehension)

Personally I like the ESL books put out by Penguin (Pair Work 1 , by Peter Watcyn-Jones an Deirdre
Howard-Williams.

The version I have was published 2002 by Penguin Books and is quite good.

Good luck with your search and I would bring as many books and materials as your Suitcase weight
allowance lets you.

Good luck,
Simon

Rincewind -

English text books are very easy to come by. Most book shops will have a large section devoted to
English study. Whither you think they are good quality or not is debatable, but the quantity
available is high and the prices are low.

If there's a particular brand or title that you would be bringing, post the name here and we can
tell you if it is in the local shops or not.

Personally, I use Interchange form Cambridge, New Concept English form Longman and Side by Side
which is also form Longman. I also have several books covering business English and some others
for particular exams.

Rather than student materials, I think you would get more value form filling you bag with teacher
materials; things like a good newspaper, wallmaps (in English) of the world and of individual
countries, restaurant menus, flash cards and other props that you may use in class.

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Friday, June 6, 2008

Chinese Course - Where can I find traditional Chinese ghost stories in English on the web? - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Chinese Culture > Art and Literature

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Chinese Learner -

I've been trying to find English 'translations' of traditional Chinese ghost stories - especially
those about beautiful 'fox' ghosts that lure handsome heros to their doom - on the web but can't
seem to find any. I think I am lookig inteh wrong places.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!!

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monto -

Some here
http://www.zftrans.com/bbs/simple/index.php?t15472.html

skylee -

A great writer of strange stories is Pu Songling / P'u Sung-ling and his work Liaozhai Zhiyi /
Liao-chai chih-i is very famous (I am not familiar with the stories, though).

You can find some of the stories here -> http://www.horrormasters.com/

Like these ->

The Young Lady of the Tung-t'ing Lake

Engaged to a Nun

Miss A-Pao; or, Perseverance Rewarded

wthru -

any website to read horror novels in english, such as Gui Chui Deng (the ghost blows out the lamp)
or 伤心至死 by 鬼古女.... i love all these novels but ant read chinese character and cant
find their english version online. anybody can help me? thks alot in advance

chaoshengzhe -

Learner:

You may want to check this out:

http://www.archive.org/details/somechineseghost16261gut

This is Lafcadio Hearn's book "Some Chinese Ghosts" which he wrote in the late nineteenth century.
Hearn lived in Japan for many years right after the country opened up to westernization, primarily
wrote about Japan, and he is still a popular figure there, but he put out some items on Chinese
legends as well. His material is still a good read, as I think you'll discover if you look at this
book.

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imron -

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I'd like to propose a slightly more extreme idea I've thought of recently while walking down the
street

You'll be happy to know that this is not an extreme idea, and is something most people with a good
grasp of tones will agree with.

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stephanhodges -

YES, one needs to be honest with themselves, and decide they are different, rather than being "in
denial"

Personally, to me it doesn't matter what the external teacher says, it's what you personally
believe.

What I mean is that once I switched to believing that "wrong tones" just meant "wrong word",
instead of "same word + different tones", my memory of correct pronunciation improved almost
overnight.

I believe that IF you tell yourself it's the "same word, but different tones" (same as saying
"same syllable/sound structure/sounds like/etc") then your brain will do it's very best to keep
all those "same word" constucts together, with memory, association, etc.

We don't want that!

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Thursday, June 5, 2008

Learn mandarin - Japanese/Korean weekdays borrowed from Chinese? - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Extras > Other cultures and language

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atitarev -

According to this site, these modern Japanese and Korean names are the traditional Chinese names
for names of the week:

http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History/calendar.html

There are, at least 3 methods to talk about weekdays in Chinese (星期一..., 礼拜一...,
周一). This is the 4th, the Japanese/Korean way, the Japanese/Korean pronunciation is given in
square brackets, "ō" is a long "o", not the 1st tone "o":

月耀/曜日 Yuèyàorì Monday, Japanese: [Getsuyōbi], Korean: 월요일 [Woryoil]
火曜日 Huǒyàorì Tuesday, Japanese: [Kayōbi], Korean: 화요일 [Hwayoil]
水曜日 Shuǐyàorì Wednesday, Japanese: [Suiyōbi], Korean: 수요일 [Suyoil]
木曜日 Mùyàorì Thursday, Japanese: [Mokuyōbi], Korean: 목요일 [Mogyoil]
金曜日 Jīnyàorì Friday, Japanese: [Kin'yōbi], Korean: 금요일 [Geumyoil]
土曜日 Tǔyàorì Saturday, Japanese: [Doyōbi], Korean: 토요일 [Toyoil]
日曜日 Rìyàorì Sunday, Japanese: [Nichiyōbi], Korean: 일요일 [Iryoil]

These are not based on numbers but on 月 (moon), 火 (fire), 水 (water), 木 (tree), 金 (gold),
土 (earth), 日 (sun).

I wonder why ABC dictionary has entries for Japanese names of the week. Do these words have any
usage in the Chinese culture (mainland, Taiwan, etc.) ? 耀 is variant of 曜, which is not used
in Japanese.

Some other site said these were abandoned early in the 20th century. (My guess is, there was some
revival in Taiwan later in the 20th century).

Do Chinese people understand, ever use these words? Were they used in the old literature?

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gato -

It's actually from the Babylonians:
Sun 日
Moon 月
Mars 火星
Mercury 水星
Jupiter 金星
Venus 木星
Saturn 土星

http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath138.htm

Code:

Latin French Saxon English

Sun       Dies Solis     Dimanche    Sun's day      Sunday
Moon      Dies Lunae     Lundi       Moon's day     Monday
Mars      Dies Martis    Mardi       Tiw's day      Tuesday
Mercury   Dies Mercurri Mercredi    Woden's day    Wednesday
Jupiter   Dies Jovis     Jeudi       Thor's day     Thursday
Venus     Dies Veneris   Vendredi    Frigg's day    Friday
Saturn    Dies Saturni   Samedi      Seterne's day Saturday

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_the_week
Various sources point to the seven day week originated in ancient Babylonia or Sumer. It has been
suggested that a seven day week might be much older. The seven day planetary week originated in
Hellenistic Egypt.

In any event, a seven day week based on heavenly luminaries eventually diffused both East and
West, to the Romans via the Greeks, and to the Japanese via Manicheans, Indians and Chinese.

atitarev -

Thanks, Gato, I didn't know that Western and Eastern names of the week are related.

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self-taught-mba -

I noticed that when I got a reply from one of the Atkins.

Cool. I want to change mine to wingdings. Ha!

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ipsi() -

Is it possible for this to be set as a board preference rather than as a cookie? I notice that
every time I use a new computer I have to set the language to Chinese, as it defaults to US. Which
would be ok, but the University computers (not that I use them often, admittedly) don't store
cookies, and thus I'd have to change it each and every time...

roddy -

Not currently. There's a new version of Vbulletin coming up, which may do that, I'm not sure.

ipsi() -

Ah well. Fair enough.

imron -

Quote:

Not currently.

Go to your control panel, and at the very bottom of the "Edit Options" (编辑论坛选项)
section there is a option called "Forum Language" (论坛语言) which might do the trick.

roddy -

I did think about that, but I think that still works on cookies. Could be wrong though . . .

imron -

Nope, I tested it by clearing all cookies in Safari. Setting the value in Firefox, and then loggin
in via Safari. The interface correctly switched to Chinese when logged in. One thing to note
though is that if set, the cookie will override the setting here.

roddy -

Right enough, now I check there's a language field in the user table on the database. It's not
accessible via the admin panel so I'd assumed it wasn't there.

imron -

Hmm, not sure what Admin panel you're looking at, but on mine, the language option is right there
in User Manager, located in the Profile just below Email, and just above User Title

roddy -

So it is. i was looking down where the browsing options are set - next to the part where we can
access users webcams and make their computers crash . . .

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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

Learn to speak Chinese - I NEED a recipe for Chinese Cream Cake w/ Fruits!! - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Chinese Culture > Food

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tinas -

I'm looking for a recipe for chinese cream cakes. The one they use for birthdays and are sold in
chinese bakeries. It is the very light cake accented with fresh fruit (with peaches, kiwi, melon &
strawberries) and whipped cream. I have scoured the net and have found NO recipes that sound like
the cake I want to make, and have only found postings by other people looking for the same
recipe!! Our family usually goes to ChinaTown in Boston when we buy them, but I want to learn to
make my own so we can save on trips to the city...In addition, the Chinese basker clain little
English and don't want to share the recipe...

Do you know how to make these cakes? These are NOT the steamed sponged cakes. I REPEAT, this is
NOT the steamed sponge cake. I need a recipe for this baked cake and the the cream they use...I
have heard the cream is not really cream but some kind of fake substitute..But so yummy anyway!! I
included a link to a picture of one below....

Please help with a full recipe!!! This pursuit has been akin to looking for the holy grail!

- TINA (Below is a pic)

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purplemama -

Hi,

Were you ever able to find a recipe? I have been looking for one myself and came across these two.
I haven't tried them out yet, so I don't know how they taste. They're pretty similar in
ingredients.

CHINESE SPONGE CAKE
(Gai Don Go)

1 1/2 c. cake flour, sifted
9 eggs, separated
1/2 tsp. cream of tartar
1/2 tsp. baking powder
1 c. sugar
1/2 c. water
1/4 c. oil
1 tsp. vanilla

Beat egg whites until slightly foamy. Add 1/2 teaspoon cream of
tartar. Beat again till stiff. Sift together flour, baking powder
and sugar. Add to egg yolks; add water, oil and vanilla and beat
until creamy. Pour the mixture over egg whites gently and fold
until well-blended.

If using a 9 x 13 pan, bake at 350 degrees for about 20 minutes.
If using a tube pan, bake 35-40 minutes, inverting tube pan upside
down while cooling.

Serve with fruit topping and whipped cream.

Chinese sponge cake

1 c Softasilk flour (cake flour)
1 c sugar
6 eggs, separated
1 ts vanilla
1/4 c cold water
1/2 ts salt
1/2 ts cream of tartar
Preheat oven to 325. Beat egg yolk and sugar till creamy. Stir in vanilla. Add flour and water
alternately till mixed well. In a spearate bowl, beat egg white till foamy. Add salt and cream of
tartar. Beat until stiff peak. Fold egg white into batter in batches. Pour into ungreased angel
food cake pan. Bake until toothpick comes out clean, about 50 minutes. Turn upside-down to cool.
Because there's no oil in the cake, it does stick to the pan. Just use a knife to careful go
around the pan. It helps if you use a pan that has a removable bottom.

Hope that helps! LMK how they turn out, if you do get around to baking one.

Tiphanie

tinas -

thanks! I never did come across a comparable recipe..I always thought the (Gai Don Go)
cake was the steamed version which is not what I was looking for..It's amazing how such a simple
cake recipe has managed to be eluded! They are so popular among other asian cultures here but no
one knows how they are made..If it turrns out..I will be the hi of the town..thanks again!

Jennifer Liu -

Did you find the recipe you were looking for? How did the two posted recipes workout? I am looking
for the same recipes myself.

Smithy -

I tried the first recipe and it turned out just as it should be! Yummy! Thanks for sharing the
recipes, Tiph!

floatingmoon -

Please feel free to upload the photo next time. We cannot eat nor smell it, but we can still see
it.

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PandaRoo -

Hi, I'm not sure if this should be posted here, so if it isn't, then please feel free to move it
to the appropriate part. Thanx!

Could someone please translate the lyrics for htis song? Its by Wubai and its in Minnan language.
[00:23.01][00:17.79][00:28:99]空袭警报~~~~
[00:48.91]阮阿公空袭的时早就已经跌落山脚
[00:52.69]阮阿嬷的猪圈乎伊烧甲臭火干
[00:56.59]阮阿爸上班的糖厂去乎伊扫甲一坑一嘎
[01:00.42]做田的陇嘛走去躲在树仔脚

[01:08.36]飞凌机若来你就趴落烂沟仔或是土脚
[01:12.12]阮厝边有人未付去乎弹到脚
[01:16.22]飞凌机飞来的时盛盛叫是有够大声
[01:19.97]你远远无见人是已经就知影

[03:28.65][01:54.78][01:23.79]啊~~~ 这款的代志
[03:32.03][01:58.74][01:27.32]啊~~~ 学校陇无提
[03:36.14][02:02.58][01:31.27]啊~~~ 那当时那这呢神秘(未来嘛是非常神秘)

[01:39.41]听说是美军要来炸台湾的日本兵仔
[01:43.13]听说咱陇总唱着日本的军歌
[01:47.23]听说咱着要交出锄头剪刀掺ㄌㄡㄌㄞ ·ㄅㄚ
[01:51.54]说战争是保护咱自己的国家

[02:10.34]酸酸哟哟酸哟哟
[02:14.23]儿仔时的Radio陇听会到
[02:18.19]对你的了解哪这呢少
[02:21.89]历史的伤害搁有影不是亲采

[03:13.21]自开始我陇当做是阮阿爸在说的诙颜
[03:17.06]自开始不知咱过去有这多的目屎
[03:21.03]现此时咱是生活在块不同的世界
[03:24.93]不知影飞凌机何时会搁来

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[00:23.01][00:17.79][00:28:99]空袭警报~~~~ 空襲警報
[00:48.91]阮阿公空袭的时早就已经跌落山脚
我爺爺在空襲的時後, 早就已經跌落山腳下
[00:52.69]阮阿嬷的猪圈乎伊烧甲臭火干
我奶奶的豬圈被它(空襲)燒到焦了
[00:56.59]阮阿爸上班的糖厂去乎伊扫甲一坑一嘎
我爸爸上班的糖廠被轟掃得坑坑疤疤的
[01:00.42]做田的陇嘛走去躲在树仔脚
種田的人全都跑去躲在樹底下

[01:08.36]飞凌机若来你就趴落烂沟仔或是土脚
飛機若飛來你就趴在爛泥溝裡或地上
[01:12.12]阮厝边有人未付去乎弹到脚
我鄰居有人來不及(躲)被炸到腳
[01:16.22]飞凌机飞来的时盛盛叫是有够大声
飛機飛來的時候咻咻叫, 聲音之大
[01:19.97]你远远无见人是已经就知影
你老遠沒見半個影就已經知道(飛機空襲來了)

[03:28.65][01:54.78][01:23.79]啊~~~ 这款的代志
啊! 這樣的事情
[03:32.03][01:58.74][01:27.32]啊~~~ 学校陇无提
啊! 學校從不提起
[03:36.14][02:02.58][01:31.27]啊~~~ 那当时那这呢神秘(未来嘛是非常神秘)
啊! 那時候怎麼會這麼神秘 (未來也一樣非常神秘)

[01:39.41]听说是美军要来炸台湾的日本兵仔
聽說是美軍要炸台灣的日本兵
[01:43.13]听说咱陇总唱着日本的军歌
聽說我們都總唱著日本的軍歌
[01:47.23]听说咱着要交出锄头剪刀掺ㄌㄡㄌㄞ ·ㄅㄚ
聽說我們要交出鋤頭剪刀和螺絲起子(screw driver)
[01:51.54]说战争是保护咱自己的国家
說戰爭是保護我們自己的國家

[02:10.34]酸酸哟哟酸哟哟
[02:14.23]儿仔时的Radio陇听会到
孩提時代的收音機都會聽到
[02:18.19]对你的了解哪这呢少
對你的了解這麼會這麼少
[02:21.89]历史的伤害搁有影不是亲采
歷史的傷害還真的不是隨便開玩笑的

[03:13.21]自开始我陇当做是阮阿爸在说的诙颜
一開始我都當作是我爸爸在說笑
[03:17.06]自开始不知咱过去有这多的目屎
一開始不知道我們過去有這麼多的眼淚
[03:21.03]现此时咱是生活在块不同的世界
現今我們是活在不同的世界
[03:24.93]不知影飞凌机何时会搁来
不知飛機何時會再來

Hope this mandarin translation helps!

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yam news article

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而在中國生產的手機類別方面，MIC亦表示，主流類別仍以GSM／WCDMA為主，尤�
�在諾基亞穩居全球手機品牌龍頭的帶動下...

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諾基亞除了持續釋出部份低價CDMA手機代工訂單外，...

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而隨著一線大廠缺乏低價CDMA手機供新興市場銷售，中國手機製造業者已快速
搶佔這個市場，也讓中國CDMA手機生產比例在第二季首度躍升至一成大關。

attempt to translate 3rd sentence: ...(don't understand)...Chinese cell phone manufacturers and
dealers race to control this market, allowing China's CDMA cellphone manufacture rate to jump
to... (don't understand)

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The title : should be 穩居 not 陰居

1. 穩居 - stay in a stable position (i.e. no other brands can take Nokia's place)

2. 代工 - I think it is "to manufacture on behalf of ...". I know there is a term for it but
cannot recall it. PS - looks like it is OEM.

3. 供新興市場銷售 - it is not 供新, it is 供 (to provide) 新興市場 (emerging / new
markets) 銷售 (sale) - to provide cdma phones for sale in emerging markets

Quote:

而隨著一線大廠缺乏低價CDMA手機供新興市場銷售，中國手機製造業者已快速
搶佔這個市場，也讓中國CDMA手機生產比例在第二季首度躍升至一成大關。

And as low-cost cdma handsets from top manufacturers are in short supply for sale in emerging
markets, Chinese mobile phone manufacturers have swiftly taken up these markets. This has also
enabled China's cdma phone production to reach 10% of the total production for the first time in
the second quarter.

Mugi -

Quote:

...在第二季首度躍升至一成大關
...for the first time in the second quarter

Does this mean "the first time in the second quarter, but there was at least one time it reached
10% in the first quarter" OR "this is the first time it has reached 10% ever, and this event
happened in the second quarter."?
I'm guessing the latter, but is the Chinese definitive, or can both interpretations be made?

skylee -

I think it is the latter. The chinese is clearer. Sorry for the poor translation but it is not my
profession.

82riceballs -

thanks guys!

Mugi -

Thanks skylee. There was nothing wrong with your translation (just a tad ambiguous), and I wasn't
confident enough about the Chinese to make an outright statement.

82riceballs -

Quote:

中國在全球手機供應鏈的角色也越來越重要。

The role that China plays as the supplier of cellphones worldwide has grown increasingly important.

why is there 鏈 (chain)? what is it doing there?

skylee -

供應鏈 = supply chain -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain

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Hi,

Can someone help me, i need the chinese characters for Life and Death, its for a tattoo.

To che.[/b]

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生与死
Maybe?

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I think a combination of these two sites is probably the best bet for a beginner.
http://www.stpinyin.com/pinyin/pinyin.htm
Start from Pinyin: Alphabet of Pinyin (with .wav audio)
http://treehouse.ofb.net/go/zh-cn/ma.../pronunciation
Mandarin Chinese Pronunciation Guide (no audio)

These following sites are also helpful, but no single one is ideal for the beginner.
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~pinyin/#intro
Chinese pronunciation guide from Harvard's Chinese program (potentially good, but maybe
technologically a little out of date as I had trouble getting the RealAudio working).

http://weber.ucsd.edu/~dkjordan/chin/pinyin1.html
Guide to Pronouncing Mandarin in Romanized Transcription (audio provided).

http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/pcr/sound...rotopinyin.htm
A Brief Introduction to Romanized spelling system of Chinese - Pinyin (.wav audio).

http://chinese.rutgers.edu/class_con...ass1/intro.htm
Rutger University's Multi-Media Chinese Teaching System: Chinese Pronunciation (no audio for the
pinyin guide, but audio is provided for other online lessons).

http://www.pinyinpractice.com/tones.htm
This site is good for practicing your pinyin.

http://www.sinosplice.com/lang/pronunciation/
Pronunciation of Mandarin Chinese (great discussion, but a little technical and not for the
beginner).

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Speaking of coffee....

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Chinanews, Shanghai��July 14 - According to Shanghai Morning Post, the
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July 12 showed that overseas investors had invested as much as $3.5
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Director of the Research Department of Jones Lang LaSelle (Shanghai)
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Overseas investors has kept their pace in coming to China in 2006, and
overseas investment in the first half of the year was as much as 70% of
the entire last year. They prefer to invest their money on top-grade
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With the growth of rent in Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou, it will cost
more for oversea capitals to buy real estates in China. Mr. Hart said
that the price had been $2,800 to $3,500 per square meter last year, and
it has risen to $3,700 - $4,000 in 2006. The price has grown at the same
rate as the rent in these cities.
Rumors said that China might issue some policies to restrict overseas
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July 3 - The Supreme People's Court (SPC) has called for stricter
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new round of policies to cool down its real estate market.
Xiao Yang, president of the SPC, said at a national conference of
presidents of the higher courts held this week, "China now stands at a
crucial stage of development and is challenged by various social
problems, including crime, which exerts great pressure on the courts."
Tightening supervision over the real estate market is one of the court's
efforts to safeguard the country's macro control policies, Xiao said.
"We will carry out China's policies in the real estate industry to
prevent speculation and illegal land seizure as well as illegal buying
and selling," said Li Daomin, president of the higher court of central
China's Henan province.
On May 17, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao attended a State Council meeting on
working out new macro measures to curb soaring housing prices and the
increasing amount of vacant commercial buildings.
The meeting announced six major policies for China's real estate market,
emphasizing that tight tax, loan and land regulations would be put in
place to restructure the industry.
The vacant area of China's commercial buildings had surged 18.9 percent
from last year to 122 million square meters by the end of April this
year, the National Bureau of Statistics reported.
The bureau said the vacant commercial residential buildings amounted to
69.21 million square meters, up 15.9 percent.
The aim of the new regulations is to adjust the housing supply structure
to provide less expensive apartments for low-income families.
Since China adopted macro-control over the real estate market last year,
increasing investment in the sector and price hikes were initially reined
in. But a survey conducted by the Ministry of Construction showed that in
the first months of 2006 the problems had not been solved as prices
continued to rise rapidly in big cities and market rules remained vague.
Insiders said the effectiveness of the six new measures depends on
whether the local governments will implement them fully.
The public reacted quickly to the new measures. An online survey showed
that 77.48 percent would postpone their house-buying plans until the
market becomes clearer.

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Friday, May 23, 2008

Learn Mandarin online - China to launch moon orbiter as planned in 2007

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China to launch moon orbiter as planned in 2007

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-21 15:58:43

Chinanews, Guiyang, June 21 - The moon-orbiting project, the first phase
of China's moon probe program officially approved and initiated in 2004,
is progressing smoothly and the first moon orbiter will be launched as
planned in 2007, according to a scientist participating in China's moon
probe program. Ouyang Ziyuan, chief scientist of China's moon probe
program, revealed the information at a symposium held in Guiyang City.
Ouyang said that the orbiter will accomplish four scientific tasks for
China's moon orbiting project, namely, provide 3D images of the moon's
surface, probe into the distribution of 14 useful elements on the moon,
estimate the thickness of soil on the whole moon through studying
microwave characteristics of the moon's surface, and monitor the space
environment between the moon and the earth 400,000 km away from the earth.
Different systems of China's moon exploration and related departments are
busy working for the above four tasks of lunar probe. After a few years
of efforts, the moon probe program is proceeding favorably at present.
Various probing instruments which will be installed on the satellite have
already been delivered.

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Thursday, May 22, 2008

Chinese Lesson - Fireworks, cruise precede SCO summit

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Fireworks, cruise precede SCO summit

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-15 08:56:15

(Source: Xinhua)

SHANGHAI, June 15 - Fireworks lit up Shanghai's sky Wednesday night when
participants to the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)
enjoyed the city's nightscape from a sightseeing boat cruising along the
Huangpu River.
Aboard the boat were Chinese President Hu Jintao, Kazakh President
Nursultan Nazarbayev, Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev, Russian
President Vladimir Putin, Tajik President Emomali Rakhmonov and Uzbek
President Islam Karimov.
The special treat was given on the eve of the annual meeting of the
intergovernmental organization slated for Thursday, five years after the
SCO was established in China's largest city.
In commemoration of the fifth anniversary of the SCO, the six member
countries have invited to the summit presidents of Mongolia, Pakistan and
Iran, and a representative of the Indian government. The four countries
hold SCO observer status.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai will also attend the SCO summit as a guest
of the host country.
The honored participants received warm welcome from hospitable Chinese as
they came into spotlight successively at Shanghai Pudong International
Airport. Children presented them with bouquets.
On Wednesday afternoon, Chinese President Hu Jintao joined his
counterparts from the other five SCO members to plant a magnolia tree at
a hotel in western Shanghai.
Magnolia flower is the symbol of Shanghai. Magnolia trees can live for as
long as 1,000 years. It is said the long-lived tree signifies the SCO's
vitality.
Hu also held separate talks with Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev,
Tajik President Emomali Rakhmonov and Uzbek counterpart Islam Karimov,
stressing China's determination to strengthen good neighborly ties with
these countries and enhance anti-terrorism cooperation with all the SCO
members.
One major function of the SCO is to fight the "three evil forces" of
terrorism, separatism and extremism, said Liu Jianchao, spokesman for the
Chinese delegation to the SCO summit, at a news briefing in the media
center of the summit Wednesday night.
He said anti-terrorism has become a consensus of the international
community and does not allow double standards.
"Under the current international situation, a single nation can hardly
accomplish the fight against terrorism. The international community
should join hands to combat terrorism," Liu said.
"All security measures in the city for the summit are necessary to ensure
a smooth proceeding of the meeting and the safety of all participants,"
he told dozens of reporters, his voice hardly audible as crackers and
fireworks banged outside.
In a latest move to promote regional economic cooperation, a SCO
Entrepreneurs' Committee was established Wednesday. The committee is a
non-governmental organization to promote multilateral cooperation in
trade, finance, science and technology,energy, transportation,
telecommunication and agriculture.
Also on Wednesday, the SCO Banks Consortium accepted Settlement and
Savings Company of Kyrgyzstan as a full member. The consortium,
established in Moscow last October to render financial support to enhance
regional trade and economic cooperation, has comprised one bank from each
of the SCO member countries.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Learn mandarin - Guangxi's sister festival

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Guangxi's sister festival

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-12 14:53:27

Pictured: the lively scene of the sister festival attracted crowds of
people from neighboring counties and townships.

Pictured: young ladies were making up in front of the mirror for the
sister festival.

June 12 - Jiangtouzhou (estuary island) in Lingchuan County of Guangxi's
Guilin City recovered its thousand-year traditional custom - sister
festival on June 11. Young ladies dressed beautifully and sang songs on
that day. Local villagers held many folk-custom activities such as
carrying sedan chair, playing trumpet and drum, lion dance, yangko dance,
colored belt, the Eight Diagrams and lotus dance and attracted many
tourists from China and abroad.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Chinese School - 1-kilogram gold souvenir medal for Sail

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1-kilogram gold souvenir medal for Sail

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-07 09:30:51

A staff member is exhibiting the 1-kilogram gold souvenir medal for Sail:
470 World Championship 2006. The price of this medal is ��239000. The
Sail: 470 World Championship 2006 will be held in Rizhao of Shandong
Province from September 4 to September 13 2006, and it is the first time
for China to host such an Olympic event.

Monday, May 19, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Civilian public security patrol squad in Guangdong

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Civilian public security patrol squad in Guangdong

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-02 14:52:14

The first civilian public security patrol squad was born in Qianfeng Town
in Yun'an County of Guangdong's Yunfu City on June 1. It is learnt that
this patrol squad, with one policeman and six villagers, serves as a
collective prevention and supervision organization composed of local
villagers, who volunteer to take part in the social public security
mission.

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